Pot Odds are one of the more basic concepts in poker, and unfortunately they’ve usually been presented in a way that’s hard to understand. This video illustrates a player using pot odds to make decisions at the poker table.
Yea i agree, i looked up to help me to work out my odds, i understand them but wanted help working them out in my head.
3 February 2012
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9:08 pmWSidis
You should use a better example, this one is more complicated than it appears and involves implied odds and reading ability which it obviously didn’t have.
3 February 2012
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9:19 pmxDragonFire
if its limit, you should really be raising flop and turn. monster draw, you have a minimum of 13 outs, which makes you even money on the flop, and if you have the overcards as well, youre a large favorite. even though in this instance, i would have lost more then you did, i would have won a nice pot a large amount of the time as well
3 February 2012
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9:38 pmincidentalist
13 outs
3 February 2012
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9:41 pmTexasRounder
Overcount outs much? I see 9 cards to the flush and 3 J’s since the fourth has already been counted among the flush cards. I think in terms of probable winning hands. The nuts will win 100% of the time so I count all of those outs but the six cards to pair my hole cards will win maybe 30% of the time so I count them as only 2 outs.
3 February 2012
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9:47 pmTexasRounder
In reality you had at least 14 outs. What if the tight player held AQ and was protecting his hand with the bet? Clearly those 6 cards then are worth at least 2 outs. Plus, with at least a 40% pot equity a raise would have been the better play. Although in this particular hand it wouldn’t have mattered, you play still gave up a lot of expectation.
3 February 2012
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9:56 pmbsheck
Raise the flop. You have the nut flush draw, a gutshot to the nuts, and two overcards. You have 15 outs to the nuts and 6 more to top pair. You’re actually a favorite over his Q8d as the cards lie.
Also, raising will often allow you to take a free card on the turn. Many players have the tendency to call the raise (perhaps fearing AQ or better) and check the turn. You can check behind and take a free river.
3 February 2012
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9:58 pmpokerProphet
post away prof.
3 February 2012
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10:45 pmpokerProphet
point made. perhaps i should do a follow up!
3 February 2012
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10:56 pmencodedevil
thnx for upload
3 February 2012
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11:08 pmrockstar24f
The video doesn’t explain how you calculate odds or how to make a decsion on how to play. An odds calculator is used, but not explained and most people will not have.
3 February 2012
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11:10 pmProfessor77
Would be happy to post this at my site with your approval. Lots more Pokervideos in high-res and full screen at http://www.professor77.com
Yea i agree, i looked up to help me to work out my odds, i understand them but wanted help working them out in my head.
You should use a better example, this one is more complicated than it appears and involves implied odds and reading ability which it obviously didn’t have.
if its limit, you should really be raising flop and turn. monster draw, you have a minimum of 13 outs, which makes you even money on the flop, and if you have the overcards as well, youre a large favorite. even though in this instance, i would have lost more then you did, i would have won a nice pot a large amount of the time as well
13 outs
Overcount outs much? I see 9 cards to the flush and 3 J’s since the fourth has already been counted among the flush cards. I think in terms of probable winning hands. The nuts will win 100% of the time so I count all of those outs but the six cards to pair my hole cards will win maybe 30% of the time so I count them as only 2 outs.
In reality you had at least 14 outs. What if the tight player held AQ and was protecting his hand with the bet? Clearly those 6 cards then are worth at least 2 outs. Plus, with at least a 40% pot equity a raise would have been the better play. Although in this particular hand it wouldn’t have mattered, you play still gave up a lot of expectation.
Raise the flop. You have the nut flush draw, a gutshot to the nuts, and two overcards. You have 15 outs to the nuts and 6 more to top pair. You’re actually a favorite over his Q8d as the cards lie.
Also, raising will often allow you to take a free card on the turn. Many players have the tendency to call the raise (perhaps fearing AQ or better) and check the turn. You can check behind and take a free river.
post away prof.
point made. perhaps i should do a follow up!
thnx for upload
The video doesn’t explain how you calculate odds or how to make a decsion on how to play. An odds calculator is used, but not explained and most people will not have.
Would be happy to post this at my site with your approval. Lots more Pokervideos in high-res and full screen at http://www.professor77.com