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    @medspit You do consider them because you can’t count them out without knowing what they are. You can’t subtract those out of the possibilities.

  • 16 January 20126:10 pm magikman38

    @medspit You do consider them because you can’t count them out without knowing what they are. You can’t subtract those out of the possiblities.

  • 16 January 20126:56 pm medspit

    @magikman38 you don’t consider burnt cards as you can’t predict what cards are being burnt …same is that you can’t predict what will happen…odds and outs are only used to calculate if you should call or not depending on the pot and bet of your opponents to know the proabability of winning a hand..still poker players still use intuition and also consider other things ..for example, a bluff, someone else having the same higher card..

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  • 16 January 201211:32 pm PBRMafia

    @magikman38 That doesnt change anything,it is still about 33 percent,not 48.

  • 16 January 201211:55 pm magikman38

    @PBRMafia you don’t subtract a burn card when applying odds with cards left in the deck. Even though physically that card is burned, you can’t account for it without knowing what it is. For instance, if it is one of your outs, then it messes up your odds. Thats why you never add burned cards or other players hole cards.

  • 17 January 201212:48 am PBRMafia

    Ok this is way off. If you have 6(remember the burn card) cards out of the deck that means there is 46 left in there. Only 12 of those will help you and 34 wont. So 12 goes into 34 almost 3 times,so we will round up and say you have 3:1 odds to make your hand,thats about 33.3% not 48%.

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  • 17 January 20122:03 am gix500

    @EtarN u actually have 20 outs for a made hand since u have 3 more outs to make 2 pairs but yes its more than 15 and depends on the strenght of ur opponents hand

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    @EtarN Right, but you re likely to win this hand without hitting anything..

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  • 17 January 20123:25 am EtarN

    @kondr7 that depends on what you put your opponent on right?
    Let’s say that I have KQ of spades, on the flop comes 10 of spades, J of spades and K of hearts. I would probably win this hand if I either hit a straight, a flush, or trips. That would give me 9 outs on the flush, 6 outs on the straight and 2 outs to hit trips, which ads up to a total of 17 outs. Which is more than 15, right?


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